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Bella's questions about the British Monarcy..

Yes this is happening.

I'm not trying to start any type of political thread or anything like that..but I have some for real questions. Since I am obsessed interested in the Royal Wedding coming up in a few weeks I have been thinking a lot about the Royal Family. I know we have some Brits on here and some people smarter than me so maybe you can help me.

First question, I watched that movie The Queen a few years ago and I know Queen Elizabeth has a husband. How come he is not the King?

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Who exactly pays for all these palaces and weddings and stuff for the Royal family? I saw Kate Middleton wearing a $1000 Burberry coat in US Weekly the other day and I couldn't help but wonder where they get their money from. Do British taxes pay for all this stuff?

Seriously, not trying to be political or anything. I think the Royal family is pretty flipping cool.

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Sounds like you need this: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-royal-wedding-by-nbc-news/id428099984?mt=8

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How did I not know about that?!?!?!?!?

Lizzy!! I know you need that too!!

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Theres an iPad one as well awesome

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Mase wrote:
Theres an iPad one as well awesome

Oh my goodness..are they free?? Because I am cheap.

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I do I do! We're having a long distance slumber party the nite o' the wedding, right? congrats (I thought we could use some bubbly...)

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Lizzy_B wrote:
I do I do! We're having a long distance slumber party the nite o' the wedding, right? congrats :congrats: (I thought we could use some bubbly...)

Yes!!! Too bad I have to work on Friday...I told you I can only watch the first 30 or so minutes though right?? I'll have to catch the rest online.

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I know the iPhone one is free... iPad... not sure

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As far as who finances the whole shebang, the Monarchy has TONS of money. One of the benefits of being a Monarchy. I don't think any of it is financed with public money, although I do wonder about bodyguards and what not.

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Bella wrote:
Yes this is happening.

I'm not trying to start any type of political thread or anything like that..but I have some for real questions. Since I am obsessed interested in the Royal Wedding coming up in a few weeks I have been thinking a lot about the Royal Family. I know we have some Brits on here and some people smarter than me so maybe you can help me.

First question, I watched that movie The Queen a few years ago and I know Queen Elizabeth has a husband. How come he is not the King?

and..

Who exactly pays for all these palaces and weddings and stuff for the Royal family? I saw Kate Middleton wearing a $1000 Burberry coat in US Weekly the other day and I couldn't help but wonder where they get their money from. Do British taxes pay for all this stuff?

Seriously, not trying to be political or anything. I think the Royal family is pretty flipping cool.

I believe he is not King because SHE is the one from the royal bloodline, he just married her. So the Monarch is a decendant of someone royal. Their spouse doesnt count.

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Almost right DD. A king usually outranks a Queen, as the Queen is the royal bloodline and the highest ranking, Prince Philip cannot use the title of King. The same thing happened with Queen Victoria and Prince Albert.
When a male is the senior rank and becomes King, his wife is allowed to be called Queen.
This hasn't always been the case though and there are times in history when a bloodline Queen's husband has been made King or when the wife of a bloodline King has been called a Princess or simply a Lady.

Senior royals are given a sum of money by the state (called the Civil List) to help them carry out their public duties. They do however have significant land and investments, the income from this picks up the rest of the tab and fund the lesser royals. Some even have to work for a living!

The cost of wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton is being split between the royal family and the state. The royals are picking up the tab for all of the direct costs of the wedding, while the State are paying for the security and policing of the event.

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Wow, Tony -- thanks for the info! I had no idea about all of that! I was actually JUST wondering this morning how the monarchy gets their dough... I figured centuries of owning prime land and other investments had something to do with it -- and Buckingham Palace is probably paid off by now. wink

I ALSO wonder... since you get a little plaque over your store or shop if the royals patronize it... is that considered "advertising?" Do the royals get free stuff from these shops because it brings in customers if they know the royals shop there? I wonder if the recent royals have struck deals like that... confused

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I ALSO wonder... since you get a little plaque over your store or shop if the royals patronize it... is that considered "advertising?" Do the royals get free stuff from these shops because it brings in customers if they know the royals shop there? I wonder if the recent royals have struck deals like that... confused

Ohh..I'd never heard of the plaque thing. That is interesting!

I actually got that app and I was looking at the family tree and I had no idea Charles had brothers and sisters. It sort of makes you feel sorry for the other three!

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Almost right DD. A king usually outranks a Queen, as the Queen is the royal bloodline and the highest ranking, Prince Philip cannot use the title of King. The same thing happened with Queen Victoria and Prince Albert.
When a male is the senior rank and becomes King, his wife is allowed to be called Queen.
This hasn't always been the case though and there are times in history when a bloodline Queen's husband has been made King or when the wife of a bloodline King has been called a Princess or simply a Lady.

Senior royals are given a sum of money by the state (called the Civil List) to help them carry out their public duties. They do however have significant land and investments, the income from this picks up the rest of the tab and fund the lesser royals. Some even have to work for a living!

The cost of wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton is being split between the royal family and the state. The royals are picking up the tab for all of the direct costs of the wedding, while the State are paying for the security and policing of the event.

Thanks Tony! I had to read that twice..but now it makes sense!

Is there any particular reason why it is different sometimes (the Kings wife being simply a Princess or Lady)? And didn't Dianna change to Lady when she divorced Charles? Or was she Lady before?

Will England pretty much close up shop on the day of the wedding?? I mean..will it be considered a holiday?

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Almost right DD. A king usually outranks a Queen, as the Queen is the royal bloodline and the highest ranking, Prince Philip cannot use the title of King. The same thing happened with Queen Victoria and Prince Albert.
When a male is the senior rank and becomes King, his wife is allowed to be called Queen.
This hasn't always been the case though and there are times in history when a bloodline Queen's husband has been made King or when the wife of a bloodline King has been called a Princess or simply a Lady.

Senior royals are given a sum of money by the state (called the Civil List) to help them carry out their public duties. They do however have significant land and investments, the income from this picks up the rest of the tab and fund the lesser royals. Some even have to work for a living!

The cost of wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton is being split between the royal family and the state. The royals are picking up the tab for all of the direct costs of the wedding, while the State are paying for the security and policing of the event.

Thanks Tony! I had to read that twice..but now it makes sense!

Is there any particular reason why it is different sometimes (the Kings wife being simply a Princess or Lady)? And didn't Dianna change to Lady when she divorced Charles? Or was she Lady before?

Will England pretty much close up shop on the day of the wedding?? I mean..will it be considered a holiday?

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The day of the wedding has been declared a public holiday clapping although I suspect many shops will be open at least Sunday hours.= don't expect much in the way of service from the staff during the actual ceremony.

A King's wife has been called Queen in the UK since about 1000AD. Go back about another 200 years to 800AD before the kindgoms of England were united under one crown and a King's wife was often just a Lady. How or why it changed I'm not sure.

Diana held the title of Lady before marrying Charles, as the reigning monarch's eldest son he holds the title Prince of Wales so she became the Princess of Wales and held that title until her death. (Her family home, Althorpe House, is only about 10 miles from where I live).
Technically, Charles' current wife Camilla is now the Princess of Wales, but she does not use the title out of respect for Diana. She uses the title Duchess of Cornwall which she derives from Charles' secondary (and lesser) title Duke of Cornwall.

Sorry, starting to ramble now.

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Tony, please do not consider it rambling, I found it very interesting as I am sure many others did. Please consider it informational.

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This is all really fascinating!

So why are Charles siblings not as big of a deal? Is it just because he is the oldest?

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This is all really fascinating!

So why are Charles siblings not as big of a deal? Is it just because he is the oldest?

I would assume... but I hardly pay much attention to it. But if he is the oldest then he would get almost everything if im not mistaken.

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Charles as the eldest son of the reigning monarch is first in line to the throne and (assuming nothing untoward) will be the next King of England. His siblings fall further down the line of sucession as he has children or his children have children or his children's children... you get the idea. Hence his importance to the British Monarchy and to the country as a whole.

All of his siblings (Andrew, Anne & Edward) get a fair amount of press coverage in the UK in relation to the number of public engagements (openings, closings, film premiers etc.) that they carry attend.

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Sorry, starting to ramble now.

Ack, please ramble!! It's fascinating to me!

I thought I read somewhere, when Charles and Camilla got married, that she will never be "Queen" is that correct? What are people's general thoughts on Camilla over there? Over here she isn't..well..hasn't been painted in the best light.

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Initially there was a lot of public feeling against Camilla, but it seems to have softened since she married Charles. As to whether she will be allowed to take the title of Queen, I don't know. I'm sure there must be a historical or constitutional precedent somewhere that covers the situations though.

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Here you go Bella....you can go to this Smile

http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2011/04/a-tweetup-of-royal-proportions-at-walt-disney-world-resort/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DisneyParks+%28Disney+Parks+Blog%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

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Tony wrote:
Initially there was a lot of public feeling against Camilla, but it seems to have softened since she married Charles. As to whether she will be allowed to take the title of Queen, I don't know. I'm sure there must be a historical or constitutional precedent somewhere that covers the situations though.

didnt they sayyyy.. at one time that Charles would NOT become king because he had a divorce? and that's why Prince William became so important?
I dunno.. I dont really follow it but I thought I heard that back when they were divorcing.

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There has been some pressure on Charles to stand aside as he is getting on a bit now and represents the old school while William is younger and could make the monachy more relevant to todays world. The final choice would be his though.

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I think Charles should step aside, I have always been a Diana fan and thus have hated Charles for a while now.

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Have someone forgot that Diana's father was an Earl? Her family came from aristocratic English family with royal ancestry. After she dicvored from Prince Charles, she was known as Diana, Princess of Wales instead of Princess Diana of Wales - I think it is because she is the mother of a future king.
Here is the link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana,_Princess_of_Wales

And Prince Philip was from a royal family from Greece and Denmark. His family was exiled from Greece. Since he was not a citizen of England and he renounced his titles from Greece, Elizabeth became the queen of England and he adopted his British grandparents' last name - Mountbatten.

Here is the link to Wikipedia about Prince Philip - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh.

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Welcome to the boards, Lalenalilly! Thanks for the helpful links, and Tony, as always, thank you for the British perspective. Is Althorpe where Diana's memorial is? I can't remember. I believe it's only open to the public for a short time each year? Do you see an uptick in visitors to the area at that time (if that's the case?)

Any special plans for the wedding day? Or are you just happy to have the day off? I think Bella and I are having a joint, long distance slumber party, and I found a recipe for a McVitie's Biscuit Cake that I am SORELY tempted to make!

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Diana is buried at Althrop - her childhood home and family home. She is buried on an small island in the middle of a lake on the property. No one is to access that island but family. Her brother, the current Earl, did build a memorial nearby for people to leave gifts and flowers. I heard that it is open only for the summer time. I might be mistaken. I am a royal freak. LOL. I will be up with my 4 months old daughter, watching the royal wedding! Smile My mom was pregnant with me when she watched Prince Charles and Diana's wedding and now I am watching it with my baby! Smile

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http://www.meijsen.net/cdp/diana/htmls/althorp.htm

In there, is a picture of the island and her childhood home, Althrop House

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Lizzy_B wrote:

Any special plans for the wedding day? Or are you just happy to have the day off? I think Bella and I are having a joint, long distance slumber party, and I found a recipe for a McVitie's Biscuit Cake that I am SORELY tempted to make!

Yes ma'am!!!! We'll have to have our own tweet-up!!

I cannot wait!!

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