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The Hawaii Thread

OK, here goes. Of course, this thread isn't meant to detract from the concept of the board, but to enhance other travel experiences you might have. Also, don't forget that in a couple of years, Oahu will be HOME to a Disney property (hows THAT for rationalization?) with the opening of the new DVC property.

Anyway, I figure we can discuss past and future Hawaii trips here and anyone who has been who would like to share pictures and stories can, and anyone who has questions about future travel can ask them.

I'm not going into great detail here, but I'll give you a brief summary of my Hawaii trips.

First went in the mid 80's when I took a group of about 35 people for a week. It was a pretty bare bones trip, in a not so great hotel on Oahu, but it was inexpensive. While on it, I did a two night swing to Kauai and Maui, just to see something different.

About six or seven years ago, we went back to what now has turned out to be our 'dream trip'. We spent five nights at the Hilton Hawaiian Village in Honolulu, then flew to Maui where we spent four nights (using the Concierge program of DVC) at the Kapalua Bay Hotel.

Kapalua Bay was absolutely the most beautiful place we've ever seen, with a pool on a cliff overlooking Molokai and another island. We had talked many times about going back to it, and lo and behold someone bought it and tore it down. Unbelievable!

Kapalua Bay is the resort area on the western coast of Maui where they hold the Mercedes Open golf championship annually.

Finally, one year later we had another deal through Hilton Vacations where we went back to Oahu and spent a week at the Hilton Hawaiian Village. While on this trip, we did a one day trip to Maui, as I actually had a meeting with a guy there.

On our trips we've done the following -
Visited Pearl Harbor (incredibly moving and don't miss it no matter what ELSE you do)
Gone to the weekly flea market at the stadium
Been to a Salvation Army Thrift Store
Actually went to Home Depot to see if they had different kinds of stuff than we have in OUR area
Been to one of the tourist luau's
Took a dinner cruise in the harbor where an Elvis impersonator was the entertainment (actually was a lot of fun)
Climbed Diamond Head twice
Drove the road to Hana
Visited the National Cemetery at Punchbowl Crater
Went to the Dole Pineapple Farm
Rode the 'Sugar Cane Train' on Maui with a surly singing conductor,
and happened upon a tourist lookout on the north shore where dozens of giant turtles had come right up to the shoreline.

All in all, Hawaii is an absolutely beautiful place that just happens to be WAY too far from where I am right now.

Currently we're discussing a trip back sometime in 2011 or thereabouts, using our DVC points to stay on Maui for a week.

One thing that DOES intrigue me is one of the Hawaii cruises that go from island to island. I'm not sure it would be the FIRST way I'd go to the islands, but having been there I think I'd enjoy it. A friend of mine just did one on their first trip, and says she would much rather have been staying on land.

Well, that should get things started.

Looking forward to hearing YOUR experiences.

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My first trip to Hawai'i came in 1979 when I was a ten year old kid. I remember being disappointed when I first found out that we were going, because I'd wanted to go back to WDW! laugh

Even as a kid, I fell in love with Hawai'i. We spent that whole trip on O'ahu, doing the entire tourist thing (stayed on Waikiki Beach, did Pearl Harbor, Punchbowl Crater, North Shore, Polynesian Cultural Center, etc.)

Joy grew up on the west coast, and had been to Hawai'i about three times before we met. Interestingly, she'd never been to Honolulu, or O'ahu at all - all of her trips were spent on the Big Island and Kaua'i. She was in love with Hawai'i too.

We decided to honeymoon on Maui, since it was an island that neither of us had been to before. So after a few days at Disneyland, we did ten days on Maui.

We stayed in Kihei, which I think is a great place to stay on Maui because it's centrally located. We had a nice mix of adventurous and relaxing activities. We did the Road to Hana, sunrise on Haleakala, La Perouse Bay, Lahaina and West Maui along with touring some of the best beaches that exist on the planet.

Now, as DVC members, we plan on definitely visiting the new DVC resort on O'ahu that just broke ground. We can also trade points to stay on other islands. Our plan is to definitely get back to Hawai'i within the next 3-5 years, and Kaua'i is definitely on my short list of islands to visit.

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Oh goodie, experts! I will no doubt have numerous questions about Hawaii, as I'm seriously considering a trip there for Christmas week this year. Specifically, I'm looking at the Waikiki Beach area of Oahu.

Do you need to rent a car there, or can you get by using public transportation?

What are the tourist luaus like? Cool, cheesy, something in between? Would I feel comfortable doing one as a solo traveler?

Have you done any of the helicopter tours of volcanos and such? What are those like? (Besides expensive, I'm sure!)

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Oh goodie, experts! I will no doubt have numerous questions about Hawaii, as I'm seriously considering a trip there for Christmas week this year. Specifically, I'm looking at the Waikiki Beach area of Oahu.

Do you need to rent a car there, or can you get by using public transportation?

What are the tourist luaus like? Cool, cheesy, something in between? Would I feel comfortable doing one as a solo traveler?

Have you done any of the helicopter tours of volcanos and such? What are those like? (Besides expensive, I'm sure!)



Well an expert I'm not, but I think I can help you with a couple of your questions.

If you stay in Waikiki, a rental car would not be absolutely neccasary, because O'ahu has the only decent public transportation of any of the island, but I'd strongly, strongly recommend it. There is so much to see on O'ahu that you'd want the freedom and independence of a car to see it at your own pace.

The only lu'au we went on was the Old Lahaina Lu'au on Maui. We chose this one because it's the most authentic, with no other Polynesian influence and only Hawaiian influence.

I guess you could say it was slightly cheesey - they did cater to toursits a bit - but more than anything it was entertaining and interesting. The food was authentic too, and you probably won't like it all. Your first taste of poi will be a moment you'll never forget. laugh

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Thanks, Imagineer!

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The food was authentic too, and you probably won't like it all. Your first taste of poi will be a moment you'll never forget. laugh

Hmm....that sounds kind of scary. Goes off to Google "poi".....

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Thanks, Imagineer!

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The food was authentic too, and you probably won't like it all. Your first taste of poi will be a moment you'll never forget. laugh

Hmm....that sounds kind of scary. Goes off to Google "poi".....

Poi to me is like many other odd foods out there. It's not awful but I can't really imagine anyone loving it. I'm pretty sure it's just something they keep around to feed us tourists!

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I'm in agreement with the car rental thing, as if you are on Oahu there are a lot of things to see and I'd rather NOT be at the mercy of public transportation. Maybe get one for a couple of days anyway so you can get to those places.

Any "tourist attractions" will be achievable through public or private transportation.

If you stay around Waikiki, you're close to downtown and the International Marketplace and the typical tourist stuff. (I don't say that negatively, 'coz I'm a 'typical tourist')

As for the luau, I went to one in the mid 80's, and YES it was hokey. In fact, it was just like going to the Polynesian Luau at WDW, except there was an ocean in the background. I loved it, so don't think I'm knocking it at all.

The luau I went to seated us at long tables as a group, so I don't think you'd have any problems as a solo. In fact, this might be perfect for that.

Solo, one thing you may want to do though is consider some day trips to some of the other islands. Flights are fairly inexpensive and you are in the air only a few minutes before you are on the next island. I think I read somewhere where they have a ferry service too, but I don't know anything about it.

One thing about Hawaii, if you go to Pearl Harbor, make sure you take the land based trip and not one of the harbor cruises. The land based trip is run by the government (I think...) and you get a ticket and they ferry you to the Memorial in the harbor. Thats the white building you always see with the shadow of the Arizona underneath. You can then walk around on the memorial and it is a very touching experience.

Last time we were there, they still had some volunteers at the memorial who were at Pearl Harbor.

One other observation. The first time I went to Pearl Harbor was in the mid 80's. At the time, the news was all abuzz about the Japanese buying up Hawaii and that state was a big tourist destination for them. When we were on the Memorial, probably 50% of the other tourists were Japanese.

By the time I went back 15 years later, the Japanese economy had shrunk. We actually went to Pearl Harbor within a week or two of the Pearl Harbor MOVIE debuting a few years ago. Crowds were tremendous, and there wasn't a Japanese tourist to be found. I always found that interesting.

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Oh yeah, a few other things -

1) I haven't done the helicopter thing, so can't help you there

2) On Maui, they have something I want to do someday. You have to get up in the middle of the night, but they take you to the top of a mountain on the island, give you a lunch and a bicycle and you ride the bike down the mountain. I keep SAYING I want to do it, but getting up in the middle of the night has squelched that so far.

3) The first time I went was in the mid-80's when Magnum PI was on the air. You could rent one of those red, "Magnum Ferrari's" on just about every street corner. I didn't even bother to ask what it would cost.

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2) On Maui, they have something I want to do someday. You have to get up in the middle of the night, but they take you to the top of a mountain on the island, give you a lunch and a bicycle and you ride the bike down the mountain. I keep SAYING I want to do it, but getting up in the middle of the night has squelched that so far.



I did this, minus the bicycles. The reason you get up in the middle of the night is to see the sun rise from the top of the mountain. The mountain is Haleakala', actually a volcanic crater. Instead of the bus trip up and the bike ride down, we took the rental car up and back. It was quite an experience, but not one that I'll feel the need to do again on my next trip.

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Good info everyone, thanks!

Poi looks really disgusting.

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I'm in agreement with the car rental thing, as if you are on Oahu there
are a lot of things to see and I'd rather NOT be at the mercy of public
transportation. Maybe get one for a couple of days anyway so you can
get to those places.

That's why I figured Waikiki would be the place for me--very central to a lot of activities, but then I could rent a car for a day or two if needs be. Or maybe do a day tour with a group, to get some socializing in, too.

Pearl Harbor is a must for me. Also Waikiki Beach and International Marketplace. I'd like to go to a less urban spot for some mild hiking and photography, too.

There are a few things I'll probably never do on vacation, and seeing a sunrise is one of them! So the bicycle thing is out. laugh

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2) On Maui, they have something I want to do someday. You have to get up in the middle of the night, but they take you to the top of a mountain on the island, give you a lunch and a bicycle and you ride the bike down the mountain. I keep SAYING I want to do it, but getting up in the middle of the night has squelched that so far.

I did this, minus the bicycles. The reason you get up in the middle of the night is to see the sun rise from the top of the mountain. The mountain is Haleakala', actually a volcanic crater. Instead of the bus trip up and the bike ride down, we took the rental car up and back. It was quite an experience, but not one that I'll feel the need to do again on my next trip.

Wow--that sounds like something we'd love to do. Is it easy to do yourself--do you need guides or anything or are the roads easy to find/use?

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2) On Maui, they have something I want to do someday. You have to get up in the middle of the night, but they take you to the top of a mountain on the island, give you a lunch and a bicycle and you ride the bike down the mountain. I keep SAYING I want to do it, but getting up in the middle of the night has squelched that so far.

I did this, minus the bicycles. The reason you get up in the middle of the night is to see the sun rise from the top of the mountain. The mountain is Haleakala', actually a volcanic crater. Instead of the bus trip up and the bike ride down, we took the rental car up and back. It was quite an experience, but not one that I'll feel the need to do again on my next trip.

Wow--that sounds like something we'd love to do. Is it easy to do yourself--do you need guides or anything or are the roads easy to find/use?

From everything I've heard it is self guided and at your own pace as there is only one road coming down. I've heard there is quite a variance in the weather as well, as early in the morning up on the mountain it is quite cool and often rainy. (I think they give you a poncho to wear)

But from everything I've heard, they give you some instructions, some food and some equipment and take you to the top and turn you loose.

I did a quick search and found these guys -
http://www.mountainriders.com/

Looks like some of their tours are guided though. I think there are multiple bike tour operators.

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I love Hawaii. So relaxing. Kauai is my favorite island. I was pretty nonplussed with Oahu, but I have to admit I stayed mostly to the touristy areas.

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Hi, All! DH and I did Hawaii for our honeymoon in July 2008. We were lucky enough to do 4 islands in 22 nights. We live on the east coast ,so it is a looooonnnnnngggggg trip.

We went to Kaanapali Beach Hotel for a couple nights....Hawaiian hotel on a beautiful beach.Did Old Lahaina Luau and recommend it...then drove to Haleakala to see the crater and the view. Did NOT do sunrise or bikes!!!! Look up Moonlight Garden Inn, a beautiful cottage with stunning views! Then the road to Hana and a couple of days there, black sand beaches, stayed on a flower farm (Hana Tradewinds/Tradewinds Flower Farm).

Next to Oahu...stayed on the east coast in Lanikai....our favorite beach; rented a loft called Lanikai Penthouse, great apt and GREAT view....but keep in mind, "penthouse" means 4th floor no elevator! My FAV activity was snorkeling with wild spinner dolphins out of Wainae harbor. We rode in a zodiac raft and it was AWESOME!!!!! Also did Pearl Harbor, battleship Missouri, Waikiki Beach, Baldwin museum and Diamond Head.

Next was Big Island, stayed at Kona, Sheraton Keauheau (?) Bay...very nice and time for a "resort" again after B&B and apts.....DH's favorite activity was
Summit and Stars tour thru Hawaii Forrest and Trail Company. An 8-hour trip, they drive you to 6000 feet, give you dinner, continue up to 13, 000 feet, give you a parka (even in Aug), watch the sun set, then go back to 9000 feet elevation for hot chocolate and stargazing. Have never seen stars like that! There are NO lights and it is "high and dry", perfect for stargazing. Also toured Kona Joe's coffee farm, mmmmmmm, now i am addicted!!!!
Next drove to Volcano. The lava was not currently flowing in the nat'l park but the rangers gave directions to the flow. It was amazing to see! Don't miss it! We did a helicoptor tour here....I felt very motion sick-did not throw up but had the little white bag open and ready for business. DH got some really good pics (not of me! yuck
Last island was Kaui. We stayed at Kaui Country Inn, great fun! Ask about the Beatles Museum! We took a boat trip to see the NaPali Coast, which also included lunch and snorkeling. DH took a second helicoptor ride but I cancelled. He said that this one was much smoother and it probably would not have made me ill....ah, hindsight! We drove to visit spouting horn and Waimea Canyon, as well as the state park beach that starts with an "L", where you are still allowed to feed the fish.
All in all, it was the trip of a lifetime. I planned it using Hawaii for Dummies book and internet research. We checked accommodations on tripadvisor.com...it saved us from one place which we were really glad we skipped when we saw it in person!But through the planning, I complained to DH "This would be more fun if there was "The DIS" for Hawaii!!!!! laugh trip advisor just was not the same!

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22 nights! That sounds great. Do you plan on ever going back or did you go so long so you could get it all out of your system.

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MT, what may I ask is the "Sugar Cane Train?"

Dopynme, Can you fly direct from the East coast?

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The Sugar Cane Train is a steam train that takes you through (supposedly) a sugar plantation on Maui.

Keep in mind I rode this thing 20 years ago. I assume it is still there.

Its a few mile ride, but is supposed to be "quaint" because the conductor plays and sings during the ride.

The ride ended up going through what looked like a junk yard with old railroad stuff lying be the side of the tracks, and the conductor was either VERY unhappy with his lot in life or had the personality of a fire hydrant.

You get the same experience riding the trains at WDW AND you get the rest of the park afterward.

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Hi, dsoup! I don't think it will ever be out of my system, we would go again tomorrow if not for this pesky earning-a-living thing!

cdub, not sure if you can fly direct. We stopped for a relatively brief layover in Salt Lake City. I think next time I would spend a couple days in the layover city to catch up on the time zones!

To address a comment by another poster (sorry, I forget who).... sarcastic

One of the guide books recommends a week per island. We cut it a bit with 4 islands in 22 nights. But her point was that even tho' the flights are short, you still need to go thru security & all, so you do spend a bit of time in the airport. If you try to visit too many islands in a short time, you'll feel like you spent your whole vacation in airports.

One amusing thing....Hawaiian Air does beverage service even on the shortest flight. The poor flight attendants have to hurry, distribute the drinks (no choice, you get juice or nothing!) and collect the trash before it's time to land again! laugh

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Hi, dsoup! I don't think it will ever be out of my system, we would go again tomorrow if not for this pesky earning-a-living thing!

cdub, not sure if you can fly direct. We stopped for a relatively brief layover in Salt Lake City. I think next time I would spend a couple days in the layover city to catch up on the time zones!

To address a comment by another poster (sorry, I forget who).... sarcastic

One of the guide books recommends a week per island. We cut it a bit with 4 islands in 22 nights. But her point was that even tho' the flights are short, you still need to go thru security & all, so you do spend a bit of time in the airport. If you try to visit too many islands in a short time, you'll feel like you spent your whole vacation in airports.

One amusing thing....Hawaiian Air does beverage service even on the shortest flight. The poor flight attendants have to hurry, distribute the drinks (no choice, you get juice or nothing!) and collect the trash before it's time to land again! laugh

I don't know if this was your experience, but when I went one nice thing was all the flights left so frequently you didn't have to do a ton of planning to get a flight to wherever you wanted to go. It was almost like getting a cab. This was long ago though, before security changes so it may be more of a hassle now.

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By the way, the Sugar Cane train still appears to be in business, but they've removed the "singing conductor" part.

Now he just talks to you.

http://www.sugarcanetrain.com/

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I went to Hawaii with a choir years ago...and loved it!

We were just on Oahu and stayed at Turtle Bay on the North Shore the first half (it is gorgeous I highly highly HIGHLY recommend it).

One other quick thing that I haven't seen in the thread. The Polynesian Cultural Center is REALLY interesting. It was probably my favorite part of the entire trip. You get to see all kinds of cultures (with people from those countries) and it is very enjoyable! Samoa was the best

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I went to Hawaii with a choir years ago...and loved it!

We were just on Oahu and stayed at Turtle Bay on the North Shore the first half (it is gorgeous I highly highly HIGHLY recommend it).

One other quick thing that I haven't seen in the thread. The Polynesian Cultural Center is REALLY interesting. It was probably my favorite part of the entire trip. You get to see all kinds of cultures (with people from those countries) and it is very enjoyable! Samoa was the best

I've heard other people say the same thing about the Cultural Center. I'm glad you reminded me! Thanks!

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Ahhh, Hawaii... I 'might' be going waiting Why the 'poo poo' face? Well I AM TERRIFIED TO FLY and considering I am in PA - well, that will be a LOOOONG trip.

CJ works for T-Mobile and every year they award a high achievement award, the PEAK award to 4 people and then those people go to Hawaii for the awards ceremony. CJ was nominated this year and we shall know very soon, if he's won.
The winners get all kinds of cash and prizes and an all expense paid trip to Hawaii. I think it's to Maui - he's not sure of the details and I didn't find much info online about it - I did find this short video though!

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So - within a week I believe we will know of he won...and if he did, I suppose I am off to Hawaii waiting

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Good luck UL! Take a chill pill and wake up in Hawaii. Its WORTH the flight.

One other thing, on the north shore theres a little roadside park you can pull into. Once you do, there is a little island that is visible from there. It is not one of main islands. When we were there, we were told that it is the island that is seen on the opening credits of Gilligan's Island. I took a picture and compared and it sure LOOKS like it.

The boat and harbor scenes from GI were shot in Honolulu and some of the program was shot on Kauaii.

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Good luck UL! Take a chill pill and wake up in Hawaii. Its WORTH the flight.

One other thing, on the north shore theres a little roadside park you can pull into. Once you do, there is a little island that is visible from there. It is not one of main islands. When we were there, we were told that it is the island that is seen on the opening credits of Gilligan's Island. I took a picture and compared and it sure LOOKS like it.

The boat and harbor scenes from GI were shot in Honolulu and some of the program was shot on Kauaii.

I know NOTHING abut Hawaii and islands, etc... I am guessing if we're staying in Maui that's pretty much the only place we'll be. Last year T-Mobile had all kinds of events planned - including concerts, meals, etc... so I am not sure how much free time we'd have, although I'm sure we'd have some.

I am having a tough time dealing with leaving my kids - who are only 2, 3 and 6 - and going clear across the country sad

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I know NOTHING abut Hawaii and islands, etc... I am guessing if we're staying in Maui that's pretty much the only place we'll be. Last year T-Mobile had all kinds of events planned - including concerts, meals, etc... so I am not sure how much free time we'd have, although I'm sure we'd have some.

I am having a tough time dealing with leaving my kids - who are only 2, 3 and 6 - and going clear across the country sad

Well, I could survive on Maui without seeing Oahu, trust me! Maui's got plenty to offer as you can see from reading this thread.

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I know NOTHING abut Hawaii and islands, etc... I am guessing if we're staying in Maui that's pretty much the only place we'll be. Last year T-Mobile had all kinds of events planned - including concerts, meals, etc... so I am not sure how much free time we'd have, although I'm sure we'd have some.

I am having a tough time dealing with leaving my kids - who are only 2, 3 and 6 - and going clear across the country sad

Well, I could survive on Maui without seeing Oahu, trust me! Maui's got plenty to offer as you can see from reading this thread.

Hawaii has never been a place I ever wanted to go - but I know so many people who are dying to vacation there. I am not sure why it doesn't appeal to me? (besides the flight, LOL)

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I wasn't interested initially, either. DH had enough miles to fly us there and that is what brought up the idea for our honeymoon. But once I started reading and learned that there is SOOOOOOOOOO much more than beaches......I started to get excited. We did enjoy our beach time and will never forget the beach in Lanikai (Oahu).......but if all you are interested in is beach and resort time, I think I would go to the Caribbean (from the East coast, anyway). They have beautiful beaches without 11 hours in the air and it can be pretty affordable.....

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I wasn't interested initially, either. DH had enough miles to fly us there and that is what brought up the idea for our honeymoon. But once I started reading and learned that there is SOOOOOOOOOO much more than beaches......I started to get excited. We did enjoy our beach time and will never forget the beach in Lanikai (Oahu).......but if all you are interested in is beach and resort time, I think I would go to the Caribbean (from the East coast, anyway). They have beautiful beaches without 11 hours in the air and it can be pretty affordable.....

I am so not a beach person. The closest I ever came to wanting to be in Hawaii was staying at the Polynesian resort laugh

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dopeynme wrote:
I wasn't interested initially, either. DH had enough miles to fly us there and that is what brought up the idea for our honeymoon. But once I started reading and learned that there is SOOOOOOOOOO much more than beaches......I started to get excited. We did enjoy our beach time and will never forget the beach in Lanikai (Oahu).......but if all you are interested in is beach and resort time, I think I would go to the Caribbean (from the East coast, anyway). They have beautiful beaches without 11 hours in the air and it can be pretty affordable.....

The flight is long, but I find that Hawaii is much more "chill" than the Caribbean. Maybe that's because it's so much harder to get there?

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UnbalancedLibra wrote:
dopeynme wrote:
I wasn't interested initially, either. DH had enough miles to fly us there and that is what brought up the idea for our honeymoon. But once I started reading and learned that there is SOOOOOOOOOO much more than beaches......I started to get excited. We did enjoy our beach time and will never forget the beach in Lanikai (Oahu).......but if all you are interested in is beach and resort time, I think I would go to the Caribbean (from the East coast, anyway). They have beautiful beaches without 11 hours in the air and it can be pretty affordable.....

I am so not a beach person. The closest I ever came to wanting to be in Hawaii was staying at the Polynesian resort laugh

What's not to like about the beach!?!