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Being of Irish/Scottish/Native American decent, I'd be glad to see any of those (I know, Native American isn't a country, but the culture, and food might be interesting). But I'd also be interested to see Russia, Egypt, or Spain. As for room, there's quite a bit of room between Germany, and China, and some between Morocco, and France.

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I'd love to see Egypt or Australia! If I had to, I'd get rid of the American pavilion purely because it's the one we spend the least time in!

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Got to have an Anartica showcasue built in. It should include nothing but snow. Actually, I am not sure which country I would add or take out, but I did hear once that a Godzilla attraction was considered for Japan. I would love to see that.

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We are heading to Epcot in a couple of weeks, so I'll be looking to see if I can tell that there is room to add more! My husband and I honeymooned at Disney last summer, but we only were at Epcot from six to midnight, because we had to pretty much do a couple parks a day. I want to do the "drinks around the world thing."

There is no question that there's room for 2 more countries at World Showcase. We found that out at the D23 event last year.

I'm pretty hesitant to participate in this thread because what I want to say might offend some people, but what the hey....

I think there are countries that I think are very likely to be added to the World Showcase: Russia, Australia, Brazil.

However, if I have my choice, I would prefer to see countries such as Egypt, South Africa, Thailand, Indonesia, Kenya, Peru, Chille, etc. I think that the World Showcase (and this is where I might get into trouble), is too white the way it is now. I would love to see more "exotic" and unfamiliar cultures from other parts of the world.

The likelihood of that happening isn't too high, though. The requirement for a country to be built at World Showcase is quite daunting, and requires a private company to sponsor the pavilion (not the country itself, with the exception of Morocco) so as not to violate a "no permanent World Expo" regulation. Certainly, Greece and Spain would have been very likely additions, but with both of those countries having economic woes, I don't see that happening anytime soon. The most likely countries that I can see are Russia, Australia, New Zealand, and Brazil.

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Zapper, if you get in trouble for saying World Showcase is "too white" it is only because people don't understand.

The over-difficulty (I am pretty sure that isn't a word) of creating a pavilion is pretty self defeating in my opinion. Also the fact that more temporary structures aren't created is disappointing. By temporary think of Greece at the Food and Wine Festival , but slightly more "permanent" than that.

In the end putting Brazil between Morocco and France and Australia/ New Zealand in a re-configured area around the outpost (between China and Germany) would do really well and it only makes sense from a financial point of view. The amount of folks from Brazil that would take pride and spend cash there could be amazing. However, I don't think this would create the rainbow effect that including a sub-Saharan African country (Nigeria, Kenya) or South American (Chile, Peru or Ecuador) would create. I would love any or all of those countries.

Totally ignoring the southern hemisphere really is unacceptable. I think there is a lot of amazing opportunity for growth and fun if Disney can get the management motivation to do it.

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Zz, I completely agree. I'd love to see a country from South America, Southeast Asia, or a different part of Africa represented.

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I agree 100 % also Zz, nothing to get in trouble about there. I'd love to see any of those countries join the World Showcase.

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Oh, I just thought of another country that would be a strong possibility - India!

It is exotic enough to a lot of people, it is prosperous enough to have many companies that could finance the building of the pavilion, and it certainly is culturally rich with a very long history of civilization.

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Zz I also agree. What does the word "World" in Walt Disney World really mean?

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Actually I think it's more about the "World" Showcase.

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You're right mrhub but I was thinking more of the whole wide world. Sometimes we all need to think outside the box WDW included.

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Zapper, I also agree. That's why I keep saying I'd like to see a country from Africa or South America.

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I think Mt. Kenya in the back of a Kenya pavillion would be fantasic and I think there is a chance the food would be amazing.

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I wouldn't want to get rid of any of the countries but I would like to see Greece, Russia, Australia, or Thailand. Egypt would be really neat too. I think it would be cool with the pyramids and such.

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Thailand or India would be my top picks!

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Been thinking that Greece would be interesting with architecture and mythology. I agree with the statement of it perhaps being too white. It is probably a timing issue. I think today we try to expand our cultures a little bit. When Epcot first opened it was more about what countries are most popular. If it were open today, it would probably be more culturally diverse. It is interesting to think about what the differences would be.

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Russia or India...the 2 biggest countries in the world, and not represented. The us/Canada shared pavilion is good, or instead you could have a British commonwealth pavilion which would include Canada, Ireland, Australia, etc.

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Russia or India...the 2 biggest countries in the world, and not represented. The us/Canada shared pavilion is good, or instead you could have a British commonwealth pavilion which would include Canada, Ireland, Australia, etc.

Russia and India would be beautiful additions.

Is Ireland still part of the Commonwealth of Nations? I thought that it lost that status after it became a republic. Or do you mean Northern Ireland since it's part of the UK?

I think that would get a little sticky, since so many of the countries involved have distinct cultures, not to mention their colonial history with Britain. It's a political union, not a cultural one, kind of like if there was one pavilion for all countries who are in the UN.

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I'd love to see Egypt or Australia! If I had to, I'd get rid of the American pavilion purely because it's the one we spend the least time in!

if one pavillon would go it would be Canada

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I'd love to see Egypt or Australia! If I had to, I'd get rid of the American pavilion purely because it's the one we spend the least time in!

if one pavillon would go it would be Canada

Oh, I'm feeling so rejected! laugh

Actually, as a Canadian, I am not all that impressed with the Canadian Pavilion. It reinforces every stereotype about us there is, and I wish they had done better. The outside is nice, but the store and movie leave a lot to be desired.

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Russia or India...the 2 biggest countries in the world, and not represented.

Not sure how India got to be one of the "2 biggest countries in the world".

Russia is certainly big in terms of land mass, while China is big in terms of population (and the 2nd largest land mass). Russia only has the 8th largest population, while India is 2nd.

Still, I don't think these statistics should be the sole criteria in selecting a country (and obviously, they aren't). There has to be a varied representation of the human population for a "World Showcase", and given the fact that the amount of space is limited, and you can't include every major civilization, my suggestion has always been to consider the fact that, as it is now, it is "too white", and thus, a strike against Russia. Having India, Indonesia, Thailand, Brazil, Argentina, Peru, or Chile will be a huge improvement in the diversity represented by World Showcase.

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I always wondered.... With all that drinking going on around the world, why no Ireland? Yes, England pour's a good Guinness... But being of Irish decent... That would be among my top picks of places to visit.... I'm sure there are entirely more fascinating cultures and countries that would be much more educational.... But I'm going to have to go with Ireland. Final answer. silly

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I'd love to see Egypt or Australia! If I had to, I'd get rid of the American pavilion purely because it's the one we spend the least time in!

if one pavillon would go it would be Canada

Oh, I'm feeling so rejected! laugh

Actually, as a Canadian, I am not all that impressed with the Canadian Pavilion. It reinforces every stereotype about us there is, and I wish they had done better. The outside is nice, but the store and movie leave a lot to be desired.

It has nothing to do with Canada. I love the place, but the pavillon doesnt make any money. Le Cellier is popular but is very small and doesnt earn that much. Plus, there is no retail. For some reason , they make u climb stairs to get up to the shops. Brillant

Plus, there is no CS. That would make a boat load if u could walk up and get cheese soup and canadian beer

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I'd love a south american country added, too! I'd also love a bit more Ireland...being Irish I'd love to visit but while they have a few things over by England almost everything else is very England-centric which upsets me when I visit.

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Plus, there is no retail. For some reason , they make u climb stairs to get up to the shops. Brillant

And at the end of the day I don't want to climb up the stair for a middle of the pack shop.

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I'd like to see an African country get a full pavilion. It's been talked about in the past but never gotten past the initial stages, and I think that since Animal Kingdom is African based it won't ever happen. So my next pick for something that may actually occur would be Russia.

If I had to remove one to make room for it, it would be China. It just doesn't strike me as well laid out and utilized as the others. I wouldn't mind seeing it completely redone either.

As far as America goes, I think that often people from the USA visiting Epcot don't think it's necessary simply because it's something that they're so familiar with already. A lot of the tourists I've spoken to at Epcot who have traveled from non-European countries to Disney actually found it quite interesting, so there's the other side of that thought. Personally, I think it's important to have the host country on display as well, if only for ceremonial purposes.

I had read a while ago that the african outpost was supposed to be a full pavillion, but then ak was thought of and they stopped building africa and left it what it is today.

Yep, that's what I read as well. The World Showcase just seems a little unbalanced to me sometimes. Out of the 11 countries displayed, 5 are European, 3 are North American, 2 are East Asian, and 1 is North African.

I LOVE this board. I LOVE that we plan Disney overhauls FOR them...if they would just listen to US over here on the WDW4G boards, they could leave ALL the thinking to us, and the Imagineers could just focus on BUILDING!

Yes, I heard the same about the African Outpost, and it's a shame that's all that beautiful country gets, besides the tiny Moroccan pavillion.

Okay, so now that we have the breakdown of the continents represented, it's CLEAR that we need some Australian, South American, and Antarctic representation!

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Plus, there is no retail. For some reason , they make u climb stairs to get up to the shops. Brillant

And at the end of the day I don't want to climb up the stair for a middle of the pack shop.

which is exactly the problem. very bad design there

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I would like to see China overhauled and maybe add a ride, actually put in the Rhine River in Germany, or get rid of China and put in an Egypt exhibit with a ride centered around and Ancient Egypt theme.

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I would like to see China overhauled and maybe add a ride, actually put in the Rhine River in Germany, or get rid of China and put in an Egypt exhibit with a ride centered around and Ancient Egypt theme.

I would not be in favor of scraping China. Being a major world civilization that has had profound impact, it would be a major omission to not have this. I would, however, be in favor of removing Norway and Canada. I don't think that will happen, but, if they want to add diversity and they are running short of space (after using up the two empty lots that they currently have), then those two would be on my chopping block as the first to go.

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Considering Canada has the most frequent amount of Disney vistors of any country besides the US, they probably won't ever drop it. Just saying.